Saturday, May 21, 2011

Right or Wrong?

Although we are not yet in Vegas, I would like to share with you one move that I did in a recent online NH deepstack tournament.
Situation: Online deepstack tournament $3.30 - 431 players - 23 remaining - $357 for the winner, $9.90 for the 23rd.
The 'good' guy (me :-) ) was chipleader with approx. 100K and the 'ugly' guy (on my right) was 2nd with approx. 90K
I am not sure about the blind but i believe it was 800/1600. This is a pre-flop situation with 9 players.
I hit KK.
UTG fold
The Ugly UTG+1 flat call.
The Good (Me) UTG+2 - raise 4BB (reasonable online? maybe 5-6 BB would have been better?)
Everybody fold until it comes back to the Ugly who shove his stack.
OOOPS what's up man...limp and all in????
Hum, what does he have(i assumed since the beginning that the Ugly was a man....girls always fall in love with the 'good guy' in the movies, isn't it)?

Before reading what happened to me below... Let me know how YOU would have done it with 23 players left and if you would have done it differently in the middle of the tournament (let's say no being ITM)

Was my move right or wrong?
Raising UTG+2 with 4BB is announcing a certain strenght I believe...he could see me with a big pair AA, KK, QQ or AK, AQ and maybe AJ..or may be in a (suicide) bluff ? or he could not see me at all (simply not even ask himself the question...pretty frequent at this level, right?)

Which hand is justifying to go allin after a limp when you are ITM and 23 players left??
Here is what i thought...
AA? - probably not. i would have cbet instead of allin
Any other pair KK-QQ? same as above
AK, JJ or smaller pair? maybe.. if my opponent has AQ, AJ, JJ-xx he would probably fold
AQ, AJ, Ax? It would be stupid to move allin with those hands..just call
Bluff? probable at this point in the tournament.

So i was convinced that the Ugly was on smaller pair or on a big bluff.
and guess what...I called
and guess what...he had AJ and a A came on the flop
and guess what...I finished 23rd
and guess what.. I tilted

Retrospectively, this was a stupid call and a big mistake. i believe my thinking was not incorrect, but at this point in the tournament, calling an allin of the 2nd chipleader was simply the wrong move... even with KK. I shouldn't have risk my stack at this point in the tournament.

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  2. En résumé, je vois le truc comme ça.
    Tournoi online à $3, 23/431 joueurs restant tous déjà ITM.
    La prochaine bulle c'est pour la TF.
    Tu découvres KK en UTG+1.
    Pour mémoire : KK est à 82% vs ramdom hand.
    La seule main que tu ne veux pas rencontrer : AA
    Vilain (UTG) fait un NY back raise (relance après avoir limpé), a tapis (ce n’est pas très orthodoxe, mais bon).
    En fait, il croit faire un resteal (avec un A ou cas ou cela se passerait mal et parce que cela divise par 2 les chances que tu en aies un aussi).
    PS: Si il est intelligent, comme vous êtes les 2 chipos du tournois,
    il sait que tu payeras que si tu as une très grosse pocket (il y a moins de 1% de chance que tu en détiennes une).
    Cela rend ce genre de move impayable préflop, à moins d'avoir une lecture extra-ordinaire sur vilain, un solide historique, ou ...
    ... ou d'avoir les cartes qui vont bien.
    Tu l'attrapes "la main dans le sac" ... Yeees
    ... pour faire simple, il joue 3 out (KK 71% vs AJo).
    Nikel, il est mal, la TF est pour toi et probablement une des 1ères places.
    Au board sort un A ... ben c'est l'poker.
    Bref, c'est un excellent call (c'est trop tôt pour faire un strategic fold).
    7x sur 10 tu vas gagner et tu seras en super position pour gagner le tournoi.
    Que veux-tu de plus ?

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  3. Question : (un peu taquine) ... prévois-tu de folder AA, dans le futur, pour éviter le bad bit ?

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